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Post by midnight on Jul 5, 2005 1:06:11 GMT 10
I'll post the Ask Ausiello article here later, when I'm back on my computer to find it. It's the only official spoilers that we have, from RT [aka The Man/Our Leader/Holy Godly One...].
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Post by amberedgal on Jul 5, 2005 11:54:26 GMT 10
here you go
Anyone read it. Its had an interview with Rob Thomas.
--Spoiler Warning-- I guess this is kinda a spoiler.
Ausiello: So what are these changes UPN president Dawn Ostroff wants you to make to Veronica Mars next season? I'm worried. Rob Thomas: They're not major. She wants more presence from twentysomething characters in the show. She wants a bit more diversity in the cast. And she wants it sexier, which we feel we're accomplishing by playing up the Logan-Veronica-Duncan triangle in Season 2. They're not jamming us too hard on anything that hurts the integrity of the show.
Ausiello: What twentysomething characters? New ones? Thomas: I know the Tara Reid rumor got out there, which really tended to freak people out. Per UPN's notes, they feel like, "We're putting you guys after our top show — America's Next Top Model — and we want you to retain some of the audience. So put somebody in there who represents that age group." Which was fine. I had planned on adding a sort of trophy wife/stepmother to Beaver and Dick Casablancas next season. And then we were just putting lists together of people who could play her and Tara Reid was on a list. I'm not sure how it got to the point that we had hired her, but that's not going to happen.
Ausiello: Tara Reid's not going to happen? Thomas: Right.
Ausiello: Phew. Thomas: But the character is — at least partially to address UPN's desire to get more of a twentysomething presence. They wanted us to have Veronica take some college classes to bring more twentysomethings into the show.
Ausiello: You're joking. Please tell me you're joking. Thomas: It's not even creatively that I hated that note. I didn't. It's just that we're so stretched financially. And budgetwise, I don't have college sets; I don't have college actors. It would have been a huge budgetary problem, so we're trying to address the twentysomething note in a more financially prudent way.
Ausiello: Tell me a little bit more about the trophy-wife character. Thomas: She'll be in her mid-twenties, a former Laker girl. Think Bonnie Bakley but with better looks.
Ausiello: The diversity thing kind of baffles me. Your cast is already pretty diverse. Thomas: That's what I thought, too. [Laughs] They have asked for another African-American female in our cast, which we are going to do. She will be a student.
Ausiello: What about rumors of a new, older love interest for Veronica? Thomas: That was just one of the things they threw up on the board. And it was all wrapped up in that "Veronica can take college classes and maybe she can become involved with an older guy" thing, which made me think, "Didn't we do that last year?"
Ausiello: Do they watch the show? Thomas: They do watch the show. It's funny, following Top Model, they're really hitting us to appeal to that audience. And I'm happy to do that as long as the integrity of the show remains. The 28-year-old trophy-wife stepmother is sort of a traditional noir character, so I'm happy to include it. I think we can find a happy balance between art and commerce.
Ausiello: Is it true that you're killing off a major character? Thomas: No. The thing I read was in Episode 6 we're gonna kill off one of our main characters, and that's not true. But in order to make the budget work, a number of actors on the show lost a few episodes in their contracts. I wouldn't have done that of my own volition. That was forced on me.
Ausiello: Were Logan or Papa Mars impacted? Thomas: No, it's not Logan or her father. It's just about everyone else.
Ausiello: Are we talking drastic reductions? Like some characters are only gonna be in one or two episodes? Thomas: No, no, no. Far from that. It's like one went from 22 to 16. One went from 16 to 12.
Ausiello: Weevill (Francis Capra)? Thomas: He's gone from 16 to 12.
Ausiello: Deputy Leo (Max Greenfield)? Thomas: Max has a new comedy [Modern Men] on WB next fall. Max is one of my favorite people to work with. He has said any day he has off he's willing to come down to San Diego and shoot Veronica Mars. I actually have him written into a scene in the first episode. The question is whether his schedule and our budget will allow it. But the scene won't be, "He's going away!" I think we could always go back to Deputy Leo. I like having him handy. I like Veronica having a relationship with somebody in the local sheriff's department.
Ausiello: Aaron Echolls (Harry Hamlin)? Thomas: We actually have him in the budget for two episodes. Seeing Aaron again in Season 2 around the time his trial rolls around is something we're planning on; it's on our storyboard. But at the same time, we're going to introduce a couple new important sets of parents, in the same way we got to know the Kanes and Ackles in Season 1.
Ausiello: Whose parents? Thomas: One will be the father of the new African-American character, who we have not cast yet. I think the name of the character is Terrence Chase, and his daughter is Jackie Chase. And then we're going to meet a character who's running for mayor named Woody Goodman, and he's going to have a daughter who goes to the high school, who we never met. We'll introduce her.
Ausiello: What about Amanda Seyfried, who played Lilly Kane? Will we see her again? Thomas: There are no plans to see her. Again, we adore her. She was such a money character for us this year.
Ausiello: And Alyson Hannigan? Thomas: She also has a new series [CBS' How I Met Your Mother]. But if we can work it into her schedule and we've got a story line that would work for her, we'd love to see her.
Ausiello: OK, I've got a couple story-line-related questions: Is Logan's mother really dead? Thomas: Yes.
Ausiello: Will Veronica and Wallace become stepsiblings this year? Thomas: I don't wanna give that away.
Ausiello: Who's at the door? Thomas: [Laughs] This is what I will tell you: I feel like our audience will feel cheated if it's anyone other than Logan or Duncan. A lot of people online have made very valid cases why it would be Wallace, and that the reaction Veronica gives would only be for her true friend, and I understand that. And yet, we have set Logan-Veronica-Duncan up as the first leg of the romantic triangle of Season 2, and I feel like it would really disturb the fans if we copped out on that answer. And I'm not going to cop out on that.
Ausiello: What can you tease about this season's overriding mystery? Thomas: It'll be significantly different from Season 1. It won't be, "A friend of Veronica's dies and she seeks justice." It will have a different flavor, a different motivation than that. And yet people can assume that we're not going to do a 22-episode mystery about insurance fraud. So it'll be big.
Ausiello: It all sounds great, but I have to admit: I'm troubled by the level of interference on UPN's part. Thomas: Last year for four or five episodes they were in our grill, and it was a very difficult working environment. But once they started seeing the cut episodes and they started airing and getting feedback, they became incredibly supportive — the most supportive environment I've ever been in.
Ausiello: And now? Thomas: They are nervous once again. They have given us their best time slot and they want this to work. So, again they're back in our... [pauses] the notes calls are taking a little longer and we're having a minibattle here on the first episode. But right now we're not shooting anything or writing anything that I'm not happy with, so they haven't tinkered us into silliness.
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Post by midnight on Jul 5, 2005 12:05:41 GMT 10
Thanks for that. It sucks that VM has such a small budget. But no wonder other characters have to be in less episodes, with all the new ones they're bringing in. I'm glad they didn't make half of it set in college though. Mrs Casablancas should be interesting. And VM should already have lots of 20-something viewers.
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Post by amberedgal on Jul 5, 2005 12:08:22 GMT 10
yeah im 20 something i cant wait for the new season
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Post by blackcherry on Jul 5, 2005 16:10:49 GMT 10
I think most of VM's viewers are 20-somethings... I'm getting so excited about season two already!!!
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Post by midnight on Jul 5, 2005 16:18:38 GMT 10
I think it's more that Next Top Model appeals to a different type of 20-something audience?
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Post by suebabyhappymeal on Jul 6, 2005 0:34:49 GMT 10
Oooh! I'm excited!
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Post by blackcherry on Jul 6, 2005 0:48:57 GMT 10
I think it's more that Next Top Model appeals to a different type of 20-something audience? Hey - I quite like that show! It's one of the few 'reality' shows I can stand.
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Post by midnight on Jul 6, 2005 0:51:59 GMT 10
I wasn't meaning to be insulting. But reality shows appeal to...a wider range of intellectual levels...than VM would.
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Post by jubs on Jul 6, 2005 17:40:04 GMT 10
well im 20 something and i enjoy VM and also next top model.. next top model appeals to most ages i would assume and their trying to take advantage of that to work in favour for VM aswell maybe most americans are too lazy to change the channel unless its a really crappy show thats on after
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Post by nyla on Jul 7, 2005 16:51:23 GMT 10
well im 20 something and i enjoy VM and also next top model.. next top model appeals to most ages i would assume and their trying to take advantage of that to work in favour for VM aswell maybe most americans are too lazy to change the channel unless its a really crappy show thats on after Ditto! jubs opened my head and scooped out my thoughts as above
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Post by midnight on Jul 8, 2005 16:28:39 GMT 10
I would normally agree about Americans being too lazy to change the channel but I saw Alias' ratings last season. VM's new time slot is the best that UPN can give it, I am hoping that it pays off. Fact is that if it doesn't rate well there it's never going to rate well.
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Post by kristin on Jul 8, 2005 16:46:45 GMT 10
I agree about Next Top Model being watchable for a reality show. Its more watchable than most scripted shows...
The competition with Lost is not a great situation, but I know that if I lived in the US and had to choose between them, that I feel so let down by Lost that there would be no decision in my mind of what to watch, and hopefully thats how everyone else in the US feels ;D
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Post by blackcherry on Jul 8, 2005 16:49:17 GMT 10
The competition with Lost is not a great situation, but I know that if I lived in the US and had to choose between them, that I feel so let down by Lost that there would be no decision in my mind of what to watch, and hopefully thats how everyone else in the US feels ;D I think that's what they're banking on. Let's hope it pays off!!!
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Post by nyla on Jul 8, 2005 16:54:59 GMT 10
Certainly working for me. Lost blows
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Post by midnight on Jul 8, 2005 17:04:47 GMT 10
Yeah I would definitely watch VM over Lost any day. And it's not like Lost moves at such a fast pace that you can't tape it and watch it the next day.
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Post by nyla on Jul 8, 2005 17:08:12 GMT 10
you could've missed the whole season of lost and just watched the finale, and you'd know as much as someone who watched the whole lot.
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Post by midnight on Jul 8, 2005 17:10:12 GMT 10
Pretty much. I don't think there was much on apart from Lost at that time anyway, so VM has more of a chance with the 'Lost interest!!!'ers than it did against TAR/House, who both have nice, happy, predictable formats that people like to follow.
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Post by kristin on Jul 8, 2005 17:10:37 GMT 10
you could've missed the whole season of lost and just watched the finale, and you'd know as much as someone who watched the whole lot. That is so true!
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Post by blackcherry on Jul 8, 2005 17:26:10 GMT 10
Meh, Lost. JJ better be prepared for that kick in the scrotum if I ever meet him... VM is a million times better than that steaming pile of shite.
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