Ep 11: Donut Run

[midnight]

Bringing us back from the break...

...is VM back to its usual awesome self?

[midnight]

I don't know whether I liked it or not.
Again.

The fake-out really disappointed me, but at the same time it wasn't poorly written or anything so I can accept it.

Still no Jackie.

Dick was great. Logan was great. Weevil was great. They made up for the whole episode being about Duncan.

Keith =


I think the show being off so long was sort of awkward, because I didn't rewatch and a lot of it is all confusing to me again.

Loved the new Wallace development though. More mystery [that is solved] is never bad.
And Sean dealing drugs! Hee. And Felix and Girl!Fitzpatrick!

And Vinnie!

[classics]

I didn't like it. I just watched it and I'm feeling quite distressed about it all.

I was waiting for Keith to kick Veronica out - I totally thought that's what he was leading up to with his speech.

Keith and Veronica's relationship will never be the same now and that really upsets me.

I find it completely ridiculous that Veronica and Duncan had to commit a serious crime in order to get custody of the lovechild (I find that whole storyline in itself totally ridiculous). The Kanes are billionaires - as if they couldn't fight to the death for custody.

I hated the whole fake out thing, and really really hate that Veronica played Keith. I thought they tried to cram too much into one episode. I know that most of the episodes have to be rewatched to pick everything up, but this one was especially over the top.

This season is wearing on me. Nothing is being properly developed. Too many half-storylines and things are being rushed.

Not happy Jan.

[midnight]

Yup, I have to say that I agree with a lot of what you have written.

It's funny because on Ten this week it was another Veronica-goes-against-Keith's-wishes episode, Drinking The Kool-Aid, so I really saw the contrast.
Back at the start/middle of the first season Veronica and Keith had a good relationship, but the paternity thing [to me] made it a whole lot better. And Keith saved Veronica. [Not that that means much - I'm sure he would have saved her whether she was being nice to him or not, but still]

VM is now beginning to remind me of Alias - you can't enjoy it for its created reality, you just have to enjoy the show for the few moments of goodness that it gives you.

At least at the start of the season the fact that the episodes weren't awesome was okay because they had necessary things to set up. But I'd expect to see improvement towards the middle and end of the season.

The whole idea of the custody thing was that Celeste didn't want to acknowledge the baby, but, I mean, it would just end up like what was going to happen with Veronica anyway - they'd grow up and want the money they're legally entitled to.

I find that I am happy, as the audience, to be slightly behind some characters for a short amount of time, but you need the 'reveal' quickly before you start to get too caught up in the fake out.
I didn't like it when they did it in Normal Is The Watchword, but I like it less when it's extended and...why?
I don't even want to fanwank it.
[An example of a good fake out would be in Alias, season 3, with the masks. At the end you get the 'OMG coooool (but weird)' feeling instead of 'yeah, okay, why?' feeling]

The second season is always going to be different to the first, and VM has a lot to live up to.
But when I find too much to nitpick about [or too much to get frustrated at] it's not good.

I'll have to watch the episode again soon. But it's not a good tactic for television. Especially not for single episodes. Not when it's not good vs evil.

The VM writers seem to be having good [if not far too soapy] ideas, but are failing to express them well to the audience.

The ep is getting an A- on TWoP, but I swear, people are just liking it because Duncan left.

I'm trying very hard to focus on the positives.
I don't want VM to be like other shows, where I pressure the hell out of people to watch them, and I think they're great, but then I change my mind and feel like a fool.

[midnight]

Oooh, I watched it again.

Still don't love it.

The part of the episode that bugs me [fake out] doesn't improve with the knowledge that it's just a game.
I would've enjoyed it more had they shown flashbacks of Veronica and Duncan plotting it, or something to that effect.

I think it's a matter of me separating my thoughts on the stuff I don't like from what the show is doing.
I don't like the VD plot, I don't like that Veronica betrayed Keith, but that's what the show is doing so I can't change it.
But I would have preferred they went another way about it.

KB did a good 'pretend to be surprised' act, but it still felt off.

I understand that what was clunky dialogue was meant to be that way, to make it seem authentic that Duncan and V rehearsed it and aren't natural actors and couldn't get it right, but still.

[amberedgal]

Hi guys *waves*

whats up with the 'tards on vogue gushing about wentworth? tools! we liked him first

Ha I loved this ep just coz I missed my VM fix. Yeah some bits werent great but wallace is the best him. This week's ep is gonna rock.

yeah the baby stealing thing was kinda obvious but hey I bet this will all reveal itself in the end.

So really whats the goss since Ive been away? any good trolling happen?

[midnight]

Gah I can't believe how gushy they're being over Wentworth and they've seen two episodes! When those tools start lurving things they just won't do it by halves.

Wallace was really good. The show started getting worse without him, and then as soon as he comes back it starts getting better. More BFF + less boyfriend = good.

I was worried after this episode but then the next episode does a lot to bring the show back to where it needs to be so I am happy.